Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 265 -- "Outline & Summary Version" -- About Spiritual Chat 264 Title of Chat: Of Original Version - go to "Expanded Title" "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You, Not What God Has Discarded On The Outside of You", And, "Make God's Intention Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends", And, "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything" Date of Chat: June 4, 2006 Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Go To Spiritual Chat 265: - With Outline Of Expanded Version =============================================================== Main Go To: Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 Go To: Short Overview - to Spiritual Chat 265 Go To: Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 Of Original Version "Brief Outline" - of Spiritual Chat 265 Text - of "Outline & Summary Version" of Spiritual Chat 265 Of Expanded Version Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 265, with No "Outline & Summary" =============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 266 Chat 265: Related Material Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 264 Chat 265: Other Stuff =============================================================== Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 265 - In process. Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 1. Opening Greeting - heart to heart, if you like Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all. Bawa. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). About Spiritual Chat 265: Bawa. Here is an Outline & Summary Version of a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) for your reading, and hopefully your sharing enjoyment. Bawa. And it comes in two flavors, that is, an "Outline & Summary of the Original Version", that is, as the Spiritual Chat occurred, and an "Outline & Summary of An Expanded Version" which provides some additional comments about the Topics discussed in this Spiritual Chat, as well as some Links to reference material. Bawa. Also to read a shorter E-mail Version of the "Expanded Version" of the same Spiritual Chat, of "Spiritual Chat 265", that is the Version E-mailed to the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, that is, but one without an Outline and without Expanded Summaries of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To E-mail Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following set of "Short Titles", to reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for our age, which in truth is the feet of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of us living in this age, if we like, that is, if the true intention for our life within us, for our soul life, is to again become "One with" God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True". "Use God To Get To God Within You, Not What God Has Discarded Within You, In Order To Become God Within You" and "Make God's Intention Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends" and "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything On The Outside of You" Bawa. We have also given "Spiritual Chat 265" the following "Expanded Title", to again reflect better the content of this Spiritual Chat: "Expanded Title" Join With "Us" Within You, And With God Within "Us" To Learn How To "Start Using "God To Get To God" Within You, And To Stop Using What "God Has Discarded" Within You, Which Is Now "You" On The "Outside" of You, In Order To Become "One with" God Within You" and "Make God's Intentions Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends" and "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything On The Outside of You, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Name of God For Your Age And For Your Life, Which Is Now "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, And For A Little While Now On The "Outside" of You, By Saying The Name of His Chidren, Of The Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us), And Then God Will Do "Everything Else" To Make Your Life Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, If You Like, For In Truth The Choice To Start To Live Like This Way, Or Not Is Your Choice, Not God's. Amen. Ok? Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) ============================================================== Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 (Of Original Version) "Brief Outline" - of Spiritual Chat 265 Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 1. Opening Greetings - heart to heart, if you like 2. First Question To The Guru - "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" 3. Second Question To The Guru - "What prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? 4. The Journey From "Selfishness - to "Selflessness" that you must learn to make each day, in partnership with God within you, with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice to use your life in this way, to allow God to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters. Amen. Ok? 5. Please Read This Sharing Everyday Grasshopper - when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? Okay, I will do that =============================================================== "Text" of Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 (Orig Version) 1. Opening Greetings - heart to heart, if you like MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al salaam 'alaykum my dear sweet brother, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. May the peace and blessings of God be with you and with all of your beautiful family. My love you. Are you well? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Thank you so much for the beautiful sharing from early this morning (Sunday). I just finished reading your email message and was very moved by the beautiful sharing it contained. [Note: For an on-line copy of this previous sharing, which was E-mail to you last Sunday, please click on the following: Spiritual Chat 264, "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com). Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman. Bawa. Good. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. It was a real labor of love, we could literally feel everything change in all of our lives. What a grace, What a wonder. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes, this child could feel the love that was shared in this message. It was truly a grace to read. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Crisi just asked Louie to get her a snack. Bawa. We will return in a few minutes. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Ok. This child is going to have to go to bed soon so we will see how long he lasts. 2. First Question To The Guru - "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. Bawa. So which of your questions shall we start with? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Good question. Let me go back to the list. [Note: Please click on the following to read the "List of Questions" that "we" came up with in our last Spiritual Chat, that is, in Spiritual Chat 264 "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com). Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Let's try this question. "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" Bawa. The first answer that comes to this child is through practice and through the faith that comes with doing this regularly. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Lets start by saying the word "Bawa", establishing the "Presence of God" within us, and then both of us reflect on this question, and this first answer, for a little while, and then hand it to Bawa within us, and to God within Him, and listen with our faith and trust to what They are saying within our heart, and then share what we hear. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Ok MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. What immediately comes into my heart is the following question, that is, "What is your goal? What are you striving to accomplish in your life? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Or said another way, what is your intention? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. My goal is to understand what needs to be understood by a true human being, to live my life as a true human being, to fulfill Bawa's intention for my life, to understand why I came to this world and to live my life in a way that fulfills this reason for coming. To find the state of peace and contentment that comes from knowing who I am, who God is, who Bawa is, who Muhammad is, who Jesus is and knowing what is the duty of this life to all of them and then doing that duty perfectly. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allah Akbar. Bawa. And who is this goal all about? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. It sort of sounds like it's about me doesn't it? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Shall we try again to answer the question or just be quiet and listen for a while? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Now remember what Bawa told us about the example of the Kungfu Television series, when the "Grasshopper" was facing a problem, or had a question. What did Cane do at that time? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. As I remember he thought back to some experience he had while he was studying with his teachers at the monastery. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Grasshopper, that is right. So do that. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. For example, what did Bawa tell us was the most important thing when doing Salat? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. What first came when this child asked Bawa for an answer to the original question about the dialog with the Shaikh was that the way to do this is to remove whatever is not the Shaikh and discard that. Then when only the Shaikh is there the dialogue is easy. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. To first establish the presence of God within us and then to make the proper intention to pray. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That is a beautiful remembrance, right on! Bawa. Yes intention. Bawa. So what is your intention?. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. My intention is to be a true disciple (or child) of the Shaikh. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok, that is certainly one intention. Bawa. But since in truth everything that we are doing is really prayer, is that a proper intention for prayer, that you be a true disciple or child of Bawa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. No. A proper intention for prayer is that God/Bawa come out of that place of unity where they are dwelling and join with this child in performing the prayer in a pure and perfect way. Coming and joining with this child so that all that is not God/Bawa is consumed and all that remains is God/Bawa. Then in that state God can pray to God as God. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes. Now lets look at intention. Bawa. Bawa teaches us the following about intention: 1) Make God's intention your search. 2) Intend as God intends. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So what is God's intention? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Or said another way, "What is God doing?" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. To bring back into Himself that which is Him and to leave outside Himself that which He has already discarded. Also to learn the Truth about who He really is. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That sounds a little like the goal you had earlier, which we both said was a little selfish, that is, was you focusing on you, and is now God focusing on God. What's the difference? Bawa. Instead wouldn't it be more like our goal is that God be there, and God's goal be that we be there, and in this way, both goals are selfless, not selfish, both goals are focusing on the success of the other, not on our own success? Bawa. For example, if you want to become a carpenter you have to become an apprentice of a skilled and licensed carpenter, and in this way learn to do what he does, by gradually demonstrating to the skilled and licensed carpenter that you can do what he is doing, that is, by correctly learning to do and complete, quicker and quicker each of the tasks that he gives to you. In this way, you become him, and in a sense, he becomes you, and on one level, you both become ONE. Right? Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Now what Bawa teaches us that what "God is doing" within each of us is telling His Story within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, so they have the Choice to again become "One with" Him again, and leave behind all of their current "separation from" God, and all of their ignorance and arrogance about "who they are", and about "where they are", and about "what is happening" to them, from the perspective of "separation from" God, as we are currently doing in our life on the "outside" of us, with "us" just mirroring what the Creation of God is doing within us, which is living a selfish life of "separation and differences".. Bawa. That what God is doing within us is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, and that God started to do this a very, very long time ago, even before we were born into this earth world within us, but God had to stop doing this, when we "Forgot God" within us, that is, when we turned away from the "Presence of God" within us, when we because fascinated by the illusory life that we began to see in our ignorance, and established "our presence" on the "outside" of us, and in this way, we gradually started to live exclusive on the "outside" of us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, with "us" now living on the "outside" of us as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True", and all of which our parents worked very, very hard to get us to do, telling us, "This is your mother. This is your father. This is your race and religion. Etc.". Bawa. So our correct goal or intention, one that is selfless, is to support God within us in what God is trying to accomplish within us, which is to tell His Story within us, which is the Story about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, so at the end of His Story, there will no longer be anything still living as "separate from" God within us, that is, everything within us, will have returned to "Oneness with" God within us. OK? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all. Amen. Bawa. Please give my love and salams to Angela, and Jamilla, and Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brothers and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship. Bawa. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in our prayers. Bawa. And as always, please try to join with Bawa within us, and with God within Him, to share this sharing with them, as in truth this is the only way to "Intend as God Intends". Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). 3. Second Question To The Guru - "What prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Sorry, I dropped right off there for a few minutes. Let me go back and read what was written. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes we need to have the intention to support God in what He is trying to do within us. Which is to complete the telling of His story within us. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And how do we do that? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. By joining together with Him to complete the telling of His story? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And how do we do that, or said another way, what prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. We prevent God from telling His story within us by thinking that we are separate from Him. What allows God to tell His story within us is for us to stop having the awareness of us being separate from Him and to start having the awareness of being one with Him. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. No. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Please tell me how. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. What prevents God from telling His Story within us - is "our presence" on the "outside" of us. Bawa. And what allows God to tell His Story within us - is "God's Presence" within us. Bawa. Realizing that "If we are there God is not there, and if God is there we are not there" Bawa. Realizing that, "We can only establish "God's Presence" within us when our mind sits down, and that our mind will only sit down when our wisdom stands up, and we get our wisdom to stand up by calling out the "Name of God" for our age, which is the name of our wisdom, and of God within our wisdom, and for our age, that is the name of the life and teaching of God for our age, that is the name of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, that is the Name of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Amen. 4. The Journey From "Selfishness - to "Selflessness" that you must learn to make each day, in partnership with God within you, with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice to use your life in this way, to allow God to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes, I believe that is enough for tonight. So the answer to the question of how to let the dialogue between this child (or any child) and his Shaikh become more constant and more clearly understood is to establish God's Presence within us by saying the name of Bawa within us before we say or do anything? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes, and there is no other way, for everything else that you do is just "selfishness", is just the drama of "I and you", of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of you, which is only leading you to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within you. Bawa. And what we did tonight, "In the Name of God" for our age, in the "Presence of God" within us, is to receive something from God within us that we can use, each day, to more easily make this same journey everyday, that is, from "selfishness" to "selflessness", from "our presence" on the "outside" of us, to "God's Presence" within us, if we like, for the Choice to use what we have been given, to do this each day, to do this many times a day, or not, is our Choice, not God's. 5. Please Read This Sharing Everyday Grasshopper - when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? Okay, I will do that Bawa. So my dearest loving brother of the One Open Heart of God for our age, please make a copy of this sharing, and read it everyday, when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Okay, I will do that. Meechum anbu my dear brother. Please give my love and salaams to your beautiful wife Crisi and to the rest of your loving family. Go in peace until we meet again at the feet of our Father Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good. Bawa. Thank you for your kind words. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). End of "Page 1 of 1" of "Outline & Summary Version" of Original Version of - Spiritual Chat 265 - ............................ Go To "Outline & Summary Version of Expanded Version" (No Outline or Summary) |
Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 265 -- "Outline & Summary Version" -- About Spiritual Chat 264 Title of Chat: Of Original Version - go to "Expanded Title" "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You, Not What God Has Discarded On The Outside of You", And, "Make God's Intention Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends", And, "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything" Date of Chat: June 4, 2006 Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Go To Spiritual Chat 265: - With Outline Of Expanded Version =============================================================== Main Go To: Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 Go To: Short Overview - to Spiritual Chat 265 Go To: Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 Of Original Version "Brief Outline" - of Spiritual Chat 265 Text - of "Outline & Summary Version" of Spiritual Chat 265 Of Expanded Version Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 265, with No "Outline & Summary" =============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 266 Chat 265: Related Material Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 264 Chat 265: Other Stuff =============================================================== Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 265 - In process. Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 1. Opening Greeting - heart to heart, if you like Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all. Bawa. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). About Spiritual Chat 265: Bawa. Here is an Outline & Summary Version of a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) for your reading, and hopefully your sharing enjoyment. Bawa. And it comes in two flavors, that is, an "Outline & Summary of the Original Version", that is, as the Spiritual Chat occurred, and an "Outline & Summary of An Expanded Version" which provides some additional comments about the Topics discussed in this Spiritual Chat, as well as some Links to reference material. Bawa. Also to read a shorter E-mail Version of the "Expanded Version" of the same Spiritual Chat, of "Spiritual Chat 265", that is the Version E-mailed to the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, that is, but one without an Outline and without Expanded Summaries of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To E-mail Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following set of "Short Titles", to reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for our age, which in truth is the feet of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of us living in this age, if we like, that is, if the true intention for our life within us, for our soul life, is to again become "One with" God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the "outside" of us, as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True". "Use God To Get To God Within You, Not What God Has Discarded Within You, In Order To Become God Within You" and "Make God's Intention Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends" and "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything On The Outside of You" Bawa. We have also given "Spiritual Chat 265" the following "Expanded Title", to again reflect better the content of this Spiritual Chat: "Expanded Title" Join With "Us" Within You, And With God Within "Us" To Learn How To "Start Using "God To Get To God" Within You, And To Stop Using What "God Has Discarded" Within You, Which Is Now "You" On The "Outside" of You, In Order To Become "One with" God Within You" and "Make God's Intentions Your Search, And Then Intend As God Intends" and "Establish The Presence of God Within You Before You Say or Do or Write Anything On The Outside of You, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Name of God For Your Age And For Your Life, Which Is Now "Bawa" or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, And For A Little While Now On The "Outside" of You, By Saying The Name of His Chidren, Of The Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us), And Then God Will Do "Everything Else" To Make Your Life Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, If You Like, For In Truth The Choice To Start To Live Like This Way, Or Not Is Your Choice, Not God's. Amen. Ok? Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) ============================================================== Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 (Of Original Version) "Brief Outline" - of Spiritual Chat 265 Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 265 1. Opening Greetings - heart to heart, if you like 2. First Question To The Guru - "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" 3. Second Question To The Guru - "What prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? 4. The Journey From "Selfishness - to "Selflessness" that you must learn to make each day, in partnership with God within you, with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice to use your life in this way, to allow God to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters. Amen. Ok? 5. Please Read This Sharing Everyday Grasshopper - when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? Okay, I will do that =============================================================== "Text" of Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 265 (Orig Version) 1. Opening Greetings - heart to heart, if you like MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al salaam 'alaykum my dear sweet brother, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. May the peace and blessings of God be with you and with all of your beautiful family. My love you. Are you well? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Thank you so much for the beautiful sharing from early this morning (Sunday). I just finished reading your email message and was very moved by the beautiful sharing it contained. [Note: For an on-line copy of this previous sharing, which was E-mail to you last Sunday, please click on the following: Spiritual Chat 264, "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com). Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam, my dearest loving brother Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman. Bawa. Good. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. It was a real labor of love, we could literally feel everything change in all of our lives. What a grace, What a wonder. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes, this child could feel the love that was shared in this message. It was truly a grace to read. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Crisi just asked Louie to get her a snack. Bawa. We will return in a few minutes. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Ok. This child is going to have to go to bed soon so we will see how long he lasts. 2. First Question To The Guru - "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. Bawa. So which of your questions shall we start with? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Good question. Let me go back to the list. [Note: Please click on the following to read the "List of Questions" that "we" came up with in our last Spiritual Chat, that is, in Spiritual Chat 264 "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com). Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Let's try this question. "How can the dialogue with our Shaikh become more constant and clearly understood?" Bawa. The first answer that comes to this child is through practice and through the faith that comes with doing this regularly. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Lets start by saying the word "Bawa", establishing the "Presence of God" within us, and then both of us reflect on this question, and this first answer, for a little while, and then hand it to Bawa within us, and to God within Him, and listen with our faith and trust to what They are saying within our heart, and then share what we hear. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Ok MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. What immediately comes into my heart is the following question, that is, "What is your goal? What are you striving to accomplish in your life? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Or said another way, what is your intention? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. My goal is to understand what needs to be understood by a true human being, to live my life as a true human being, to fulfill Bawa's intention for my life, to understand why I came to this world and to live my life in a way that fulfills this reason for coming. To find the state of peace and contentment that comes from knowing who I am, who God is, who Bawa is, who Muhammad is, who Jesus is and knowing what is the duty of this life to all of them and then doing that duty perfectly. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allah Akbar. Bawa. And who is this goal all about? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. It sort of sounds like it's about me doesn't it? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Shall we try again to answer the question or just be quiet and listen for a while? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Now remember what Bawa told us about the example of the Kungfu Television series, when the "Grasshopper" was facing a problem, or had a question. What did Cane do at that time? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. As I remember he thought back to some experience he had while he was studying with his teachers at the monastery. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Grasshopper, that is right. So do that. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. For example, what did Bawa tell us was the most important thing when doing Salat? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. What first came when this child asked Bawa for an answer to the original question about the dialog with the Shaikh was that the way to do this is to remove whatever is not the Shaikh and discard that. Then when only the Shaikh is there the dialogue is easy. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. To first establish the presence of God within us and then to make the proper intention to pray. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That is a beautiful remembrance, right on! Bawa. Yes intention. Bawa. So what is your intention?. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. My intention is to be a true disciple (or child) of the Shaikh. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok, that is certainly one intention. Bawa. But since in truth everything that we are doing is really prayer, is that a proper intention for prayer, that you be a true disciple or child of Bawa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. No. A proper intention for prayer is that God/Bawa come out of that place of unity where they are dwelling and join with this child in performing the prayer in a pure and perfect way. Coming and joining with this child so that all that is not God/Bawa is consumed and all that remains is God/Bawa. Then in that state God can pray to God as God. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes. Now lets look at intention. Bawa. Bawa teaches us the following about intention: 1) Make God's intention your search. 2) Intend as God intends. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So what is God's intention? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Or said another way, "What is God doing?" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. To bring back into Himself that which is Him and to leave outside Himself that which He has already discarded. Also to learn the Truth about who He really is. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That sounds a little like the goal you had earlier, which we both said was a little selfish, that is, was you focusing on you, and is now God focusing on God. What's the difference? Bawa. Instead wouldn't it be more like our goal is that God be there, and God's goal be that we be there, and in this way, both goals are selfless, not selfish, both goals are focusing on the success of the other, not on our own success? Bawa. For example, if you want to become a carpenter you have to become an apprentice of a skilled and licensed carpenter, and in this way learn to do what he does, by gradually demonstrating to the skilled and licensed carpenter that you can do what he is doing, that is, by correctly learning to do and complete, quicker and quicker each of the tasks that he gives to you. In this way, you become him, and in a sense, he becomes you, and on one level, you both become ONE. Right? Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Now what Bawa teaches us that what "God is doing" within each of us is telling His Story within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, so they have the Choice to again become "One with" Him again, and leave behind all of their current "separation from" God, and all of their ignorance and arrogance about "who they are", and about "where they are", and about "what is happening" to them, from the perspective of "separation from" God, as we are currently doing in our life on the "outside" of us, with "us" just mirroring what the Creation of God is doing within us, which is living a selfish life of "separation and differences".. Bawa. That what God is doing within us is revealing God to God within us, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, and that God started to do this a very, very long time ago, even before we were born into this earth world within us, but God had to stop doing this, when we "Forgot God" within us, that is, when we turned away from the "Presence of God" within us, when we because fascinated by the illusory life that we began to see in our ignorance, and established "our presence" on the "outside" of us, and in this way, we gradually started to live exclusive on the "outside" of us, in our ignorance and in our arrogance about our ignorance, with "us" now living on the "outside" of us as if we are "separate from" God within us, all of which is "Just Not True", and all of which our parents worked very, very hard to get us to do, telling us, "This is your mother. This is your father. This is your race and religion. Etc.". Bawa. So our correct goal or intention, one that is selfless, is to support God within us in what God is trying to accomplish within us, which is to tell His Story within us, which is the Story about the "Oneness of God and True Man" within us, so at the end of His Story, there will no longer be anything still living as "separate from" God within us, that is, everything within us, will have returned to "Oneness with" God within us. OK? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon us all. May God help us all. Amen. Bawa. Please give my love and salams to Angela, and Jamilla, and Kareem, and to all of our dearest loving brothers and sisters of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship. Bawa. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in our prayers. Bawa. And as always, please try to join with Bawa within us, and with God within Him, to share this sharing with them, as in truth this is the only way to "Intend as God Intends". Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). 3. Second Question To The Guru - "What prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Sorry, I dropped right off there for a few minutes. Let me go back and read what was written. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes we need to have the intention to support God in what He is trying to do within us. Which is to complete the telling of His story within us. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And how do we do that? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. By joining together with Him to complete the telling of His story? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And how do we do that, or said another way, what prevents God from telling His Story within us, and what allows God to tell His Story within us? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. We prevent God from telling His story within us by thinking that we are separate from Him. What allows God to tell His story within us is for us to stop having the awareness of us being separate from Him and to start having the awareness of being one with Him. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. No. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Please tell me how. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. What prevents God from telling His Story within us - is "our presence" on the "outside" of us. Bawa. And what allows God to tell His Story within us - is "God's Presence" within us. Bawa. Realizing that "If we are there God is not there, and if God is there we are not there" Bawa. Realizing that, "We can only establish "God's Presence" within us when our mind sits down, and that our mind will only sit down when our wisdom stands up, and we get our wisdom to stand up by calling out the "Name of God" for our age, which is the name of our wisdom, and of God within our wisdom, and for our age, that is the name of the life and teaching of God for our age, that is the name of our dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of us, that is the Name of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Amen. 4. The Journey From "Selfishness - to "Selflessness" that you must learn to make each day, in partnership with God within you, with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, and with each thought, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice to use your life in this way, to allow God to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Yes, I believe that is enough for tonight. So the answer to the question of how to let the dialogue between this child (or any child) and his Shaikh become more constant and more clearly understood is to establish God's Presence within us by saying the name of Bawa within us before we say or do anything? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes, and there is no other way, for everything else that you do is just "selfishness", is just the drama of "I and you", of "mine and yours" on the "outside" of you, which is only leading you to an eternal hell of "separation from" God within you. Bawa. And what we did tonight, "In the Name of God" for our age, in the "Presence of God" within us, is to receive something from God within us that we can use, each day, to more easily make this same journey everyday, that is, from "selfishness" to "selflessness", from "our presence" on the "outside" of us, to "God's Presence" within us, if we like, for the Choice to use what we have been given, to do this each day, to do this many times a day, or not, is our Choice, not God's. 5. Please Read This Sharing Everyday Grasshopper - when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? Okay, I will do that Bawa. So my dearest loving brother of the One Open Heart of God for our age, please make a copy of this sharing, and read it everyday, when you first get up in the morning, and before you go to bed at night, and several times between, so you solidify this clarity within you, about the only way you can ever again become "One with" God within you, which is by "Using God to Get to God" within you, in this way, stopping all of your trying to use "you", in your current state, to get to God. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Okay, I will do that. Meechum anbu my dear brother. Please give my love and salaams to your beautiful wife Crisi and to the rest of your loving family. Go in peace until we meet again at the feet of our Father Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good. Bawa. Thank you for your kind words. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). End of "Page 1 of 1" of "Outline & Summary Version" of Original Version of - Spiritual Chat 265 - ............................ Go To "Outline & Summary Version of Expanded Version" (No Outline or Summary) |
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